In 2014, Woodbury philosophy professor Rossen Ventzislavov published an article in the聽Journal of Aesthetics and Art Criticism聽holding that curating is itself a form of art. Entitled 鈥淚dle Arts: Reconsidering the Curator,鈥 the piece argued that curatorial practice is an extension of the artist鈥檚 creative process. Shortly thereafter, Sue Spaid 鈥 a philosopher and practicing curator 鈥 attempted a rebuttal of 聽Rossen鈥檚 thesis, distinguishing between the 鈥減erformance鈥 of an artwork within a curatorial setting and the artwork itself. In response to Spaid鈥檚 article, Rossen countered and a spirited debate ensued.
At the Institute for Contemporary Art in Downtown L.A., the debate was recently revived and extended. 鈥淏oxing Philosophical: Are Curators Artists, Too?鈥聽moved the dialogue from print to the public arena. Moderated by historian Patricia Morton,聽鈥淏oxing Philosophical鈥澛爌rovided a platform for Rossen and Spaid to re-examine their perspectives and expand their investigation into the nexus of artistic and curatorial practice.
Rossen: Because of the internet and Pinterest and other modalities, there鈥檚 been a lot of conversation about curation as a broader range of engagement. We use the word more, such as when you say 鈥渢he curation鈥 of a retail store or 鈥渃uration鈥 of musical playlists. I wanted to take stock of this phenomenon, and try to redefine or reconsider it. I looked deeply into what a curator does and what an artist does and found the overlap. The thesis that comes out of these considerations is that the curator is an artist.
Rossen: Certain ideas emerge in the process of experiencing an exhibit. Conceptual art is precisely about cognitive value, delivering mental content rather than aesthetic. For example, there could be a sheet of paper that has instructions on how to dance. That鈥檚 not a beautiful object or something produced meticulously or by hand. The artwork then becomes the concept. The curator doesn鈥檛 tweak the paintings and repaint the face of the princess so she looks happier. That鈥檚 not the kind of intrusion curators do. Theirs is most often cognitive, by arranging works that give new meanings. That鈥檚 an important contribution and an art in itself.
Rossen: There are examples of very active and creative curating even in the past. But we live in a time when curating is much more pertinent than it was 100 years ago. There were fewer institutions, fewer people engaging in art. And, if you think about it, art was a diversion for the privileged. That鈥檚 not the case anymore. We try to democratize art. There鈥檚 street art, all of these ways of engaging with art that are egalitarian. We actually need the curator much more than we needed them in the past.
Rossen:聽 I use an example of a Matisse painting. Matisse is one of the Impressionist masters. Nobody takes a Matisse painting and throws it in a strange curatorial situation. A particular painting, 鈥淭he Dance,鈥 at the Museum of Modern Art in New York, was initially displayed in the big Matisse room. When they renovated the MoMA, they moved it to the stairway, almost like a service area, where you take a breather from the art. At first, I was scandalized. But I walked up to the wall text, and it said that 鈥淭he Dance鈥 was commissioned to be in somebody鈥檚 stairway. The curator had the freedom to engage the history of the painting on its own terms, rather than lump it together with others for the sake of chronology. That is a very active curatorial choice, and it makes a difference in how you experience it.